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Can you get a Reverse Mortgage on a Home with Acreage?

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Does the property have to be 5 acres or less?

Wow, I wish I could answer this question in as few words as you asked!  Unfortunately, though, this is going to take a little longer. Because if I had to answer it in just a couple of words, I would have to say, “it depends”.

We get this question often, and so I will try to give you an answer that doesn’t get too lengthy but also covers enough to be meaningful.


No Maximum Acreage Defined by HUD 

Can you get a Reverse Mortgage on a Home with Acreage?

HUD does not have a magic number of acres that your property cannot exceed to be eligible for a reverse mortgage. 5 acres is a guideline many lenders have established, but this is not a firm rule. More so than the absolute size of the parcel, the heaviest consideration is given to the conformity to the other sales in the area (thereby demonstrating marketability), the use of the property (cannot be agricultural usage or more than 25% business), and the majority of the value should not be in the land.

The appraiser must find recent comparable sales as part of the appraisal process, and your property must be similar to those sales. If all the sales in the area are 7-10 acres, requiring the appraiser to make minimal adjustments to your property, which is also about the same size, and the properties are not being used for agricultural purposes, then the property size is not a significant issue.

If, however, the other sales in the area are all on much larger or much smaller parcels and there are no sales of similar-sized properties available, then any adjustments the appraiser makes to arrive at a value are entirely subjective and not allowed by HUD. Furthermore, the value of a property of significantly different size is not substantiated if there are no comparable sales of similar size available, and the marketability of that property is also not established.

If no homes on that sized parcel are selling, it could be because that sized parcel is not readily accepted by homebuyers in that market, and HUD does not want to insure a loan on such a property, making the property unacceptable for a reverse mortgage.


Ineligible Property Types 

As I stated, HUD does not insure loans on commercial and agricultural properties. We sometimes encounter properties that lack a current crop in the ground, yet they are zoned agricultural and have an agricultural highest and best use.

This would render a property ineligible.  This would be true if the property were 5 acres or 25 acres, so it’s not always just the size that counts. Finally, we have had some borrowers who have done lot divisions and placed the reverse mortgage on the parcel with the dwelling after the division, when it made sense.

Recently, there was a case where the lot was approximately 35 acres, and the sales in the area were all less than 5 acres; consequently, the borrowers could not obtain a reverse mortgage. They chose to do a lot split, making one parcel of 32 acres and one of 3 acres (the same size as most of the other homes in the area), and then do their reverse mortgage on the dwelling with 3 acres.

Before you run out and subdivide your parcel, I would caution you, though. There may be tax ramifications on the taxation of the new parcels. You need to be sure that the sales are available for other-sized parcels, that it will not be an exercise in futility and expense, and that it will not injure either of your parcels.

Before taking any action, I would always suggest gathering as much information as possible.


Make sure to check zoning laws 

Check with the authority responsible for zoning, the taxing authority, a local surveyor, a real estate attorney, and possibly even a knowledgeable real estate professional to determine the effect of the proposed actions on value. Please forgive me for getting so long-winded. The truth of the matter is that the property being over 5 acres does make the loan a bit tougher and the appraisal will receive more scrutiny, but it does not mean that it is an automatic disqualifier.

The only way to be 100% sure is to have an appraisal done and see what sales are available in the area, but often, we can look at the information available to us and get a feel for that availability. If you already have an appraisal, please feel free to send us a copy. We’ll review it and let you know our findings, all at no cost to you.


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39 Comments on this Article
  1.   Lynnette G.
    March 11th, 2025
    Can I obtain a reverse mortgage on a single-family, 35-acre property zoned as agricultural? I currently have a $165,000 mortgage with 27 years remaining at 3.375% interest. I'd like to pay off the mortgage and build a pole barn while continuing to live on the property for as long as possible.
    Would I be eligible for a reverse mortgage in this scenario, or would I be better off using my home equity to obtain a HELOC? My plan is to pay off the mortgage within 6-8 years and then use the home's equity to build the barn after the original loan is paid off. My ultimate goal is to have this barn built.
    Reply to Lynnette
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      March 11th, 2025
      Hello Lynnette,
      The HECM reverse mortgage program is designed strictly for residential properties and does not apply to commercial, agricultural, or farm properties. Because of this, larger properties (over 5 acres in urban and suburban areas or 20 acres in rural areas) must be both zoned and used as residential to qualify.
      If the property is zoned agricultural, it is typically not eligible for a reverse mortgage unless:
      The surrounding area consists entirely of residential properties.
      The property is strictly used as a residence, with no agricultural or farm-related activity.
      There are enough comparable residential sales available for an appraiser to determine an accurate market value.
      Any excess land is incidental to the home and not a major contributing factor to its value.
      Since HUD insures reverse mortgages only for residential properties, farms and commercial properties do not qualify under their guidelines.
      Regarding Outbuildings and Land Use:
        A barn or outbuildings (sheds, corrals, etc.) alone do not disqualify a borrower, but their value must be supported by comparable sales.
        Having a garden, keeping horses, or growing personal vegetables is not necessarily a disqualifying factor. However, a working farm or ranch is viewed differently by HUD and would likely make the property ineligible.
        Your property is both large and zoned agricultural, which presents two significant hurdles.
        That said, if your property and surrounding homes are all similar in size and zoning and have had recent sales that meet HUD's requirements, there may still be a possibility of eligibility. However, before investing in an appraisal, I strongly recommend speaking with a reverse mortgage specialist to review your specific situation.
      If your property does not meet HUD's criteria, you may be better off exploring a HELOC as an alternative. A HELOC could allow you to pay off your existing mortgage sooner and later tap into home equity for your barn project.
      Unfortunately, there are cases where the only way to determine eligibility is through an appraisal. However, if your property operates as a working farm or ranch, it will not meet HUD requirements, and you may want to avoid spending money on an appraisal unnecessarily.
      Reply to Michael
  2.   Jay L.
    December 13th, 2024
    The reverse mortgage company added a property (vacant land) that I own to the reverse mortgage under my home of 30+ years without my permission.
    Reply to Jay
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      December 13th, 2024
      Hello Jay,
      I'm not entirely sure what you mean. The lender cannot add additional parcels to your property or cross-collateralize them with your Deed of Trust or Mortgage for the reverse mortgage. To do what you're suggesting would require the lender and title company to add a second parcel of land to the legal documents covered by the loan. This would make the loan unacceptable to HUD as well. Additionally, there is absolutely no way to add parcels to the loan after you've signed the documents, which you should have a copy of.
      I recommend checking the legal description of your property to ensure that the land you're referring to isn't already part of the main parcel included in the reverse mortgage. If you still believe additional parcels have been added without your permission and are not part of the original legal description, you may need to consult with a real estate attorney to investigate further.
      Reply to Michael
  3.   Denis G.
    June 26th, 2024
    My sister is executor of her husband's estate which includes a reverse mortgage. Their property is a 200 acre farm in Vermont that has a road dividing it into two parcels (but listed on one deed). When the mortgage was granted it specified it was on the west parcel and included almost a full page of survey details to delineate that parcel. An appraisal was done on just that parcel for the amount of loan they could take. My question is if the farm sells for less than the amount on the loan can the mortgage company take the whole farm or just the parcel that the loan was granted on. To the best of my knowledge they did not do anything with the county tax assessor to separate the parcels. Is it too late to subdivide the farm to prevent forfeiture of the whole farm.
    Reply to Denis
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      June 29th, 2024
      Hello Dennis,
      The answer to your question all depends on the legal description to the property and what is included in the parcel that the loan encumbers. The legal description to the property may include one lot or could include two or more lots all making up one parcel within the legal description. If it is two separate parcels though with two separate legal descriptions, I would think that the lender would not have allowed them to both be included in their loan. And HUD does not allow farm/agricultural property for reverse mortgages and which would have required the lender to use a parcel of land that was residential to secure the loan for the reverse mortgage.
      My guess, and it is only a guess, is that you have two parcels of land, and that the lender's reverse mortgage loan only secures the lot that is not the farm now. Do they also pay separate tax bills on the property? One for the home and one for the farmland? This would further substantiate that there are two separate pieces of property. You can pull the recorded Deed of Trust or Mortgage from the county records if you don't have a copy to see what the reverse mortgage covers and if you are unable to determine what land is delineated by the legal description, the title company should be able to help you. The best thing would be if you have the original title paperwork since it would have a copy of the preliminary title report with the parcels outlined and you will be able to see what parcel is covered. If not, you can contact any title company (best if you have the information on what company last issued your title insurance from your loan but if not, any company can do a title search for you) and tell you what liens are on what parcels.
      From what you are saying, I think you may find that you have one parcel with a reverse mortgage on the parcel and one parcel that is not encumbered by the loan. If that is the case, it makes no difference what the parcel appraises for that has the dwelling on it, you would be free to do with the other property as you please as it is not governed by the any of the loan provisions. If for some reason the parcels are not already separate and are encumbered by the loan, it would not be possible to subdivide them now.
      Reply to Michael
  4. Michael Branson Michael Branson
    June 2nd, 2024
    We have a 72-acre horse farm appraised at $675,000. Our loan is $315,000. We are currently building the house and are struggling to complete it and pay the mortgage at the same time. I am 61 she is 59. What can we do?
    Reply to Michael
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      June 2nd, 2024
      Hello Greg,
      From what I understand, your property is a working horse farm. This type of property may not be eligible for most reverse mortgage programs. These programs typically don't lend on properties used for agriculture, commercial, equestrian, or other animal boarding/breeding uses. However, if your property is mainly residential with a few corrals and horses, it might be a different case.
      Additionally, reverse mortgage properties are typically 20 acres or less, with any additional acreage being incidental and not particularly of added value. The lender is looking to see the value in the home, not in the land or outbuildings and other structures such as corrals and barns. The appraiser would need to find a minimum of three recent sales of similar residential properties to determine a value for the FHA appraisal. But with your age, you would need a proprietary program, which would offer less money, and you would not be able to receive enough money to pay off your current loans, let alone have cash available for other purposes.
      Finally, if the home is not yet complete, even if the property use met the lender's requirements, they would still require the construction to be completed before they would close a reverse mortgage on the property. I would suggest you check with your local banks that offer Home Equity Lines of Credit (HELOC). Perhaps with a HELOC, you can get enough money to complete your project, and then you can look for one loan to pay for everything when the home is complete. I don't know what their requirements are, but that would be my suggestion.
      Reply to Michael
  5.   Dani
    May 13th, 2024
    My parents currently have a reverse mortgage and are thinking of refinancing a new reverse mortgage. The current loan includes 20 acres. My question is: Could the amount of acreage be reduced to 17 acres under the new loan to ultimately keep 2-3 acres loan-free?
    Reply to Dani
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      May 13th, 2024
      Hi Dani,
      The lot would need to be split before the loan was closed so the new legal lot was smaller, and then the loan would be considered on the new property parameters. Can that be done? Absolutely, and lots are split all the time. Is it practical in your case? Maybe not, and here's why. You can't split the lot while a lien/loan is on the property. The current loan covers the entire parcel.
      You could pay off the existing reverse mortgage, do a legal lot split, and then your parents are free to apply for a new loan at that time on the new property minus the 3 acres. In most cases, the 3 acres would probably be considered a minor portion of the value and would not change much, if any. However, if there is anything about the 3 acres that was unique to the 20-acre property that added significant value to the larger lot, there may be more of an effect on the value of the property due to the split than thought, and it could lower the amount of the reverse mortgage that would be available.
      Reply to Michael
  6.   Annette
    August 20th, 2022
    Hi Arlo,
    If I own some land and wanted to buy a factory-made home with a reverse mortgage and had it placed on the land when I die will my children lose the land or just the house?
    Reply to Annette
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      August 20th, 2022
      Hello Annette,
      To be eligible for a reverse mortgage, the home must be permanently affixed to the land and therefore be real property. At that time, the loan will cover both the land and the improvements. When you pass, your heirs will have the option to pay off the loan and keep the home, sell the property or walk away and owe nothing.
      They do not automatically lose anything but if you pass owing more than the more than the property is worth, they also have the right to pay the loan off at 95% of the current market value, even when more is owed if they wish to keep the property and the loan would be paid in full at the reduced payoff amount.
      If they do choose to walk away, neither they nor your estate will owe anything else as the lender cannot look to them or any other assets you or the estate may have at that time to help pay off the loan.
      Reply to Michael
  7.   Derek D.
    July 13th, 2022
    Hello ARLO,
    I am the Administrator of my grandmother's estate. She got a reverse mortgage on her home in 2006. The legal description in the mortgage said it included her home and .5 acres of land. Around 2014 after her sister passed away, she inherited an additional 4 acres of land directly behind her house. The lot lines were redrawn and the deed was updated to now include 4.5 acres (the original .5 acres plus the 4 acres). My grandmother has since passed away and unfortunately, there is no equity in the home worth it for us to sell and come out on top with what is owed to the reverse mortgage company. If the house is foreclosed on will the RM company own the full 4.5 acres if they get the deed to the home? Or are they only entitled to the legal description on the RM? Thanks.
    Reply to Derek
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      July 13th, 2022
      Hello Derek,
      I think this is one you will need to address to a real estate attorney. The lender has a loan which is secured by a piece of real estate and the legal description is specifically delineated in the loan documents and the title policy.
      I honestly do not know how they were able to change the legal description of the property while there was a loan/lien on the property without the lender's approval.
      If your grandmother approached the lender and requested approval to add the additional acreage and the lender agreed (which, why wouldn't they if it only added value), then there would need to be a modification done on the loan to include the new legal description but I have never heard of such a thing on a reverse mortgage after the loan closed.
      I think it may be more feasible that your grandmother did something without the lender's knowledge but their security it the original lot and I honestly do not know what it would take to split it back to the original lines again. But that is for a real estate attorney to review and advise after they review the title, legal description and everything involved.
      My uneducated guess is that the legal description on the Deed of Trust or Mortgage only entitles the lender to the original property but I can't tell you how that is affected by anything your grandmother did by adding the other property.
      I also don't know if your grandmother actually redrew any lines or added any property at all or just combined the two parcels for taxation purposes but in fact, they are still considered two separate legal parcels.
      Reply to Michael
  8.   Carole
    January 5th, 2021
    Is a land survey required for a reverse mortgage in New York state?
    Reply to Carole
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      January 5th, 2021
      Hello Carole,
      We are not licensed in the state of New York, so I am a little hesitant to give you a firm answer for New York.
      I can tell you what happens in some other states and it might help you to understand why surveys may or may not be required at times, but you would need to verify your circumstances as it can vary not only by state but also by location within the state and even circumstances of the property.
      There is not a set-in stone answer for the states in which we are licensed, and it would not surprise me if New York were not the same. The requirement for a survey may depend on what the title company discovers during the preliminary search.
      If it has not been long since the last loan was secured on your property, there may have been a survey completed recently enough that the title company does not feel it is required at this time. Or if the boundaries of the lot are so well delineated over time in established urban or suburban areas, title typically also not need a new survey in most states in which we lend, and you may find that to be the same in New York.
      However, if the property is more rural in nature or there are any ambiguities in the lot lines, if there is an appearance that your improvements encroach on a neighbor's lot or theirs on yours, or if the legal description is unclear or has changed over time, then a survey would be warranted in almost any state.
      To be 100% sure, you really need to speak with a lender originating loans in New York or a title company located in the state and even then, have them check your specific property to be certain.
      Reply to Michael
  9.   Marion
    November 8th, 2020
    I think ARLO already answered my questions, but I'm not sure.
    I have 44 acres. 40 of it is in farmland tax assessment (is this the same as zoning??) and is free leased to a farmer. Thus, it would be small income producing but not to me as the owner. I am trying to understand why income producing makes a difference for reverse mortgage.
    The house sits on 4 acres and is taxed like an ordinary residence.
    If I understand what you've written, the property wouldn't qualify for the reverse mortgage. The reason makes no sense to me.
    The other unique thing about this particular property is that its value is for equestrian use (indoor riding arenas, pastures, barn, etc.) The area is populated with a lot of horse properties.
    So, am I correct that this property wouldn't qualify for two reasons 1) Some of it is farmed and 2) It has a lot of acres. ??
    Lastly, you keep mentioning HUD. Aren't there other sources for giving these loans besides HUD?
    Reply to Marion
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      November 11th, 2020
      Hello Marion,
      I keep mentioning HUD because the program most people are familiar with is the HUD Home Equity Conversion Mortgage (HECM) and that is the loan program under which the vast majority of reverse mortgage are closed.
      There are proprietary or private programs, but they are few and usually referred to as "jumbo" programs because they are intended for high value homes.
      HUD insures the reverse mortgages through the Federal Housing Administration (FHA).
      The only type of properties eligible for the insurance necessary are 1-4 family residential properties.
      They do not insure commercial properties, agricultural properties, or vacant land.
      Some properties with acreage will qualify if the land value is minimal and the value is basically in the home and the additional land is ancillary to the homesite and there are adequate recent sales of other properties for the appraiser to use as comparable sales.
      The program will not allow residential properties wherein more than 25% of the home is used for commercial uses (and then it cannot change the residential nature of the home) and HUD will not allow for agricultural properties under this program.
      Why? You would need to ask HUD that question!
      We submitted a property to HUD for an exception request that had 5 acres of vineyard on an eight-acre parcel a while back with a very nice home and the exception was not granted citing the no agricultural usage rule.
      We thought we might have a chance because the owner did not sell the grapes, it was a "hobby farm".
      The property was zoned agricultural. HUD does not insure loans on farms or agricultural property on their forward programs either, this is not a restriction solely on the reverse mortgage program.
      Jumbo or proprietary programs are typically more restrictive, not more lenient.
      However, if you believe your property may meet the lender's or investor's requirements, you should contact a lender and request an application.
      They may be able to give you an answer with just an online review of the property, but it may take an appraisal to know for certain.
      Reply to Michael
  10.   Charles C.
    October 7th, 2020
    I want to purchase a piece of bare land that is part of a larger piece that has a house on it with a reverse mortgage.
    Reply to Charles
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      October 7th, 2020
      Hello Charles,
      That would not be an easy task. The individual owning the land now has all of it encumbered by the existing reverse mortgage and the loan is now part of a pool in a mortgage backed security.
      It's not as if it is a single loan on a lender's shelf somewhere on which the lender can just make a determination of the value of the land and have the borrower pay down the existing loan by a percentage of the outstanding balance to represent the loss of security they once had with the additional property and then issue a partial reconveyance.
      The owner would need to pay off the existing reverse mortgage loan then do the lot split to allow for the sale of the parcel that you wish to purchase and then seek financing (reverse mortgage or otherwise) on the property after the change.
      That would entail the owner having the means to pay off the existing reverse mortgage and if he/she did so with another loan, the new lender agreeing to allow a lot split and issuing a partial reconveyance at that time.
      And then the owner would need to determine the value of the home minus the land that was divided and sold off to see if he/she would have enough money along with whatever they made from the sale of part of the lot to you to place another reverse mortgage on the property after all was said and done and that they now qualify under the current HUD parameters if they wish to continue with a reverse mortgage with no payments or that they are prepared to start making payments on the new financing.
      Such a proposition could mean substantial risk to the existing owner if for any reason they or the property no longer meet the current HUD program parameters and it would not be considered a refinance of the current loan at that point so it would also create a lot of costs for the owner.
      Reply to Michael
  11.   Kelly
    June 3rd, 2020
    If our neighbor has a reverse mortgage on their property with acreage & we wanted to purchase a portion of their acreage, would that be possible?
    Reply to Kelly
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      June 3rd, 2020
      Hello Kelly,
      That would require a partial reconveyance of the land encumbered by the reverse mortgage and I will not tell you that it cannot be done, but I would highly doubt it. The loans are sold into mortgage backed securities (MBS) and I do not believe that the lender would have the option to release a portion of the underlying security used for the sale of the MBS. But the only way to know for sure would be to make the offer to the lender to see if they have the option of releasing a portion of the land and what the amount of the buy down of the loan would need to be if they could do it at all. As I said, I do not believe it possible, but it never hurts to ask.
      Reply to Michael
  12.   Dale S.
    September 15th, 2019
    Can a property that is a farm with a residence, zoned for farmland, qualify for a reverse mortgage?
    Reply to Dale
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      September 15th, 2019
      HUD does not typically insure loans on Agricultural Zoned properties. If the property allows for agricultural use but it is solely a single family residence, is not used for agricultural uses and that is the predominant use in the area with adequate sales of similar, non-agriculturally used properties, and its highest and best use is as a single family residence (not agricultural use), then it would be eligible.
      If the property is being used for agricultural purposes, the properties in the area are predominantly agricultural use or the appraiser states that the highest and best use of the property is farmland (agricultural use), it would not meet the HUD parameters.
      Reply to Michael
  13.   T. Smith
    April 30th, 2019
    Can we get a reverse mortgage on land?
    Reply to T.
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      April 30th, 2019
      Good Morning,
      Vacant property is not eligible for a reverse mortgage. The loan can only be placed on residential property which contains a home that meets either HUD or the private investor's requirements (for a jumbo or private program). There are also restrictions on the zoning of the property. The home must be zoned as residential. In additional to vacant lots, agricultural, industrial and commercial zoning are not acceptable when considering a reverse mortgage.
      Reply to Michael
    •   Robert B.
      January 14th, 2020
      I own the land but have a mobile home on it I would like to put a new home on it and then reverse mortgage it. Is that possible and how do I do it?
      Reply to Robert
      • Michael Branson Michael Branson
        January 16th, 2020
        Hello Robert,
        Once the home is complete, you can do the reverse mortgage on the completed property and the certificate of occupancy has been issued. The only thing I can't (and really no one can) tell you is that your new improvements will meet all HUD guidelines and that all the current sales at that time will support the cost of the construction in advance.
        If this is your plan, you need to go into it knowing that there is a possibility that the newly completed home may not be eligible for a reverse mortgage and it may not even have anything to do with the home itself.
        For example, if the location of the home is too close to commercial gas or other external influences, it could be ineligible. Or depending on your location, there could be an issue with an appraiser being able to find enough sales of similar homes available to perform an acceptable FHA appraisal.
        If there are a lot of homes in the area that are similar in size and utilization to the property you intend to build that regularly sell, this would not be as large a concern.
        The bottom line is that you need to build the home with a "Plan A" and a "Plan B" in mind in case there are any issues that would make the property ineligible for the reverse mortgage. Just on the outside chance that the property is not eligible, you do not want to be in a position that requires you to have the loan or you are in trouble.
        Reply to Michael
  14.   Carol
    August 3rd, 2018
    I've learned from comments on your site that HUD will not accept a reverse mortgage for property if it is being farmed. I'm trying to understand their definition of "being farmed." If my property is a half-acre vegetable garden for my own table, is that allowable? If my property is 5 acres of grass on which my sheep graze, is that allowable? If I receive zero income from my property, then how does HUD determine if it is being farmed or not?
    Reply to Carol
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      August 6th, 2018
      Hi Carol,
      HUD does not typically allow agricultural zoning or property that is being used for business purposes. The loan is meant to be used on residential property. Gardens are not a problem when you have a residential zoning. If the zoning is agricultural and you have a half acre garden in the back and another 20 acres of land on which other crops could be or have been growing in the past for sale, then it's a different story. If you have livestock on the property and it is zoned residential with an allowance for minimal farm animals, that would not be a problem as well. If it is zoned agricultural or the zoning is not specific and the property is a working sheep or cattle ranch, even though the home may be a single family home, it would not meet HUD's definition of a residential dwelling eligible for mortgage insurance. HUD uses the appraiser to be their eyes and ears in the field and lenders can also see and learn a lot just by looking on the internet. Satellite pictures often show a lot and Google is a great source as well.
      Reply to Michael
  15.   Ellen
    February 20th, 2017
    We have a 20 acre parcel that we run cows on. It is zoned EFU, but the land is hilly and not suitable for crops. We sell some milk and beef to friends, but it is not an profit-producing operation. Farms like ours are very poplular in our area, as young families seem to want to move to the country, so I have never worried about the marketability of the property. I am not sure the house would account for the majority of the value, but our purpose in wanting a reverse mortgage is to make improvements to the house. How can I find out if we can qualify without paying for an expensive appraisal?
    Reply to Ellen
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      February 21st, 2017
      Hi Ellen,
      I really can't give you a definitive answer with this information. My first inkling is to tell you that it would not be acceptable because there is not supposed to be any farm or agricultural usage of the land and the property cannot be income producing. I don't know what you mean by "...we run cows on". Is that 2 cows, 30 cows, more? And I am not familiar with every zoning classification in the nation. I was able to find this definition in Oregon:
      EFU zoning limits development that could conflict with farming practices. It keeps farmland from being divided into parcels too small for commercial agriculture. Lands in these zones are automatically eligible for lower property taxes based on the land being farmed.
      If this is your zoning, I can almost tell you for certain that it would not be allowed as the intent is for commercial agriculture, not residential as HUD requires but I can't tell you that without any possibility of being wrong whatsoever with just the information I have. I don't want to discourage you unnecessarily, but based on what you have said, I do not believe your home would meet the HUD requirement for residential only zoning and usage. The only way to know for certain would be the appraisal, but short of that, if you contact us with complete information (name and address) we can pull a little more information from online sources and may have a better idea.
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      •   tom mccall
        July 11th, 2017
        My property is considered AG, I had to sign a farm dwelling agreement when i first purchased it. How ever my property is only 5500 square feet. My house is 2400 square ft. I could not farm it even if I wanted. Is there any way HUD would give me a variance.
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        • Michael Branson Michael Branson
          July 12th, 2017
          While I don't know what your "farm dwelling agreement" states, if your property use as residential conforms to the current zoning, it is 100% residential in the area (you aren't just one small lot surrounded by large agricultural properties) and there are similar properties around you (and of course the appraiser states that residential is the highest and best use of the property), you should be ok to receive the reverse mortgage. I obviously can't tell if there are other factors that could present a problem or if that agreement has some verbiage that would prevent the property from being eligible for a reverse mortgage, but I would certainly pursue it further if you are interested based on what you have told me so far.
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  16.   Salomon martin rivera
    August 8th, 2016
    hey there!
    been a mortgage banker real estate broker 30 years,
    found your comments informative and interesting!
    Look for ward to reading more!
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  17.   Don
    May 20th, 2016
    I am disappointed that reverse mortgages are hard to be eligible for without separating the land into smaller parcels...I have 10.45 Acres and am meeting resistance...because of average and 4 rental units on the 10.45 acres. Sucks!!!
    Cost of appraisal is too high...too high to be possibly denied...and I really don't want to separate my property into parcels.
    Reply to Don
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      May 21st, 2016
      Hi Don,
      I'm sorry I really don't know how to answer this one though. HUD never implied that the reverse mortgage would be all things to all people and properties. There are a lot of unique properties and those with commercial usage that also cannot utilize the program. We recommend to all borrowers that if your property has excessive acreage, additional units, is zoned for any usage other than residential or has other unique characteristics that you give us a chance to look at the circumstances before you incur a lot of costs. But I won't lie to anyone, HUD never intended their programs to include all property types and unfortunately there are just some properties that will not meet their required parameters.
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  18.   Bonnie
    March 25th, 2016
    Can someone with a reverse mortgage sell half of their land? Say they have 10 acres and want to sell 5.
    Reply to Bonnie
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      March 25th, 2016
      Hi Bonnie,
      The reverse mortgage is just like any other loan. If the loan encumbers the entire parcel of land (reverse or forward mortgage), you cannot sell a portion of the property that secures the loan.
      The possible exception to that is if the land brought no value to the transaction or if the value was considerably higher than the HUD lending limit at the time, you could petition the lender and HUD to request a partial reconveyance of the portion of the land you would like to sell. They would have to determine that the release of the 5 acres in no way lessened the value of their security and that's not an easy proposition. You're going to have to convince the lender that the security on which they lent has not been lowered at all by splitting the land.
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