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HECM-to-HECM Refinance ‘5-Times’ Benefit Rule Explained

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ARLO explains HECM refinance rules

For some existing reverse mortgage borrowers – particularly borrowers who have a Home Equity Conversion Mortgage (HECM) sponsored by the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) – a number of factors may lead them to ask if it is both possible and/or beneficial to potentially refinance their existing loan into an offering with more advantageous terms.

The short answer to this is yes, it is possible to refinance a HECM reverse mortgage.

Refinancing can come with several possible benefits, including increasing the amount of money that you’re able to borrow from the loan, along with taking into account other factors that may have shifted into your favor since the original loan was first created, particularly in terms of interest rates and/or principal limit factors (PLFs).

Refinancing conventional, forward mortgages is a very common practice that some borrowers utilize in order to try and create more favorable terms as they work to pay off their home loan.

In terms of refinancing reverse mortgages, the motivation for doing so can come from a number of places that tend to be a bit more specialized.

This is because HECM reverse mortgages are only available to Americans that are at least 62 years of age.

In addition to a change in interest rates or PLFs as possible motivating factors, you may find it beneficial to refinance your reverse mortgage if your home value has notably increased, such as due to market conditions, or even after renovations that may have added value to the property.

Tapping into that additional equity may be beneficial for anyone who may require access to additional funds to meet more financial obligations in retirement.



What is the ‘5 times’ benefit rule?


Guidance for the HECM program often comes in the form of ‘Mortgagee Letters’ (MLs) issued by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), the part of the U.S. government which oversees the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) which administers the HECM program.

In 2009, HUD issued a mortgagee letter that offered guidance specifically related to the refinance of HECM reverse mortgages, and it reads in part:


For HECM refinance transactions, mortgagors can waive and opt out of the HECM counseling requirement only if […] the following conditions are met:


  1. The increase in the mortgagor’s principal limit exceeds the total cost of the HECM refinance by an amount equal to five (5) times the cost of the transaction; and
  2. The time between the closing on the existing HECM and the application for refinancing does not exceed five years.

Basically, this rule says that there has to be a certain value and/or benefit to the reverse mortgage borrower when it comes to refinancing their existing HECM reverse mortgage into another HECM.

In other words, if you, as the reverse mortgage borrower seeking out a refinance transaction have the potential to gain five times the financial benefit from initiating a refinance over the closing costs that you must pay under the terms of the loan, then considering a HECM-to-HECM refinance could make financial sense for you.



5x benefit example

Let’s say that under the current terms of your existing HECM reverse mortgage, you have an initial principal limit of $100,000.

In searching for more amenable terms, you look into the possibility of refinancing into a new HECM and begin shopping around for options that could give you potentially better terms, which include access to additional funds.

In one instance, a lender offers you a new principal limit of $150,000, a $50,000 increase in value over your current arrangement, with estimated closing costs of around $5,000.

In a case like this, you have the potential to gain ten times more in additional loan proceeds than the amount of money you would have to pay ($5,000 x 10 = $50,000), which is well above the “5 times” rule and which makes the new transaction a viable option to consider.

Another lender offers you a new principal limit of $120,000, while estimating the closing costs somewhere around about $5,000.

Under this scenario, you would stand to gain four times more in additional loan proceeds than the amount of money you would have to pay ($5,000 x 4 = $20,000), which fails to meet the “5 times” threshold, at which point you should likely disregard those terms since they don’t represent enough of a gain for you to go through with the transaction.



Should I ever go through with a loan that does not meet the ‘5-times’ rule?

That’s not to say that the second option would fail to work for all borrowers universally.

Particularly for existing loans that were originated prior to August of 2014, those existing loans may not have as many protections for non-borrowing spouses, since there was a time in which some borrowers took their spouses off of the home’s title in order to try and gain additional loan proceeds.

This is very dangerous under the modern lens of the reverse mortgage industry, because if something were to happen that led to the named borrower leaving the home, the loan would become due and payable and the non-borrowing spouse would be forced to live somewhere else.

For borrowers in that scenario, a loan that fails to meet the five times benefit rule may come with other benefits that were not originally considered, such as added protections for the non-borrowing spouse if an unexpected event were to befall the primary borrower.

Though there are not the same amount of added financial benefits under the terms of a loan that does not meet the 5-times benefit rule, the added protection coupled with a modest increase in available loan proceeds may be justification enough to go through a less financially beneficial HECM-to-HECM refinance.

If you’re a homeowner who is interested in using a reverse mortgage to supplement your retirement, you might want to consider a jumbo reverse mortgage, from which you may be able to access a greater portion of your home equity than you otherwise would with a FHA-insured HECM loan.



Is a HECM Refinance Right for You?

Reverse mortgages might not be the perfect solution for every homeowner, but depending on your particular situation, a HECM could be something to consider as you approach your retirement years.

All Reverse Mortgage is here to answer your questions. Access our online reverse mortgage calculator to estimate your reverse mortgage lending limit or call us Toll Free (800) 565-1722.


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8 Comments on this Article
  1.   Cherie C.
    January 29th, 2021
    Hi, I took out a reverse about 10 years ago. My house has gone up in value on Zillow to $550,000 but is probably worth more as it has a separate rental unit as income. I would like to see if I can redo the reverse so that I can make home improvements. I currently owe $300,000 to the lender for the reverse. Is this possible?
    Reply to Cherie
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      February 2nd, 2021
      Hello Cherie,
      It is possible, but it depends on whether you would qualify based on your age at this time. If you are already 10 years into a reverse mortgage, it is safe to assume you are over the age of 62 and will receive a higher benefit than borrowers at 62 years of age but how much more will depend on your circumstances.
      The only way to know for sure is to contact a lender with your current statement available and let them perform an analysis based on your age, the property value, and the costs you would incur to refinance. If this is your first refinance, the chances are good the costs will be minimal, and I think you may have a good shot at a refinance if the value is $550,000 or higher.
      Zillow is a tough measurement to use because they often use values based on area norms and if there are a lot of sales of homes that are different in size or upgrades than your home, that value may be different - higher or lower.
      It takes an appraiser to determine the value, but an experienced Loan Officer can often look at the sales and determine if the online valuations are trending higher or lower than the most probable value IF the data is available. In any case though, the only way to know for sure will be to wait for the appraisal.
      Also See: Appraisers Use the Sales Comparison Approach, Not Zillow.
      Reply to Michael
  2.   John R.
    June 18th, 2020
    Are standard costs such as title escrow and other misc. fees considered in the factor?
    Reply to John
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      June 18th, 2020
      Hi John,
      Yes, all costs to get the loan go into the equation that HUD uses. That is exactly why they want to see if the loan makes sense for the borrower and it is not just some originator talking a borrower into a loan that costs $4,000 from which they will only receive $3500.
      As of this writing, there are some exceptions that have recently come into play though. Adding a spouse who was previously a non-eligible coborrower and was not covered under the old loan would probably qualify in most instances for a loan that does not meet the 5 times benefit requirements.
      And for the first time, some instances where the only benefit is a lower rate are being considered. If the borrower is lowering their rate/mortgage insurance accrual by 2% total aggregate or more, those loans are now also being considered as a benefit to the borrower as this can save the borrower thousands and thousands of dollars over the life of the loan.
      Reply to Michael
  3.   Chito M.
    June 12th, 2020
    What happens if new principal limit equals the current principal limit? So zero increase. And there's zero closing costs. And loan proceeds test is met, meaning benefit of new hecm, after paying off current hecm balance and zero closing costs, is more than 5% of the new principal limit. And present HECM is more than 18 months. As far as benefit to the borrower is concerned - reduced rate due to reduced margin and reduced MIP, which results in lower loan balance in the future. Will this be a viable benefit for a HECM to HECM refi?
    Reply to Chito
    • Michael Branson Michael Branson
      June 13th, 2020
      Hello Chito,
      There are two tests each borrower must meet to be eligible to refinance an existing HECM with a new HECM loan. Both tests must be met, and lower interest rate is not one of them. Lowering the rate alone would not enable a borrower to qualify.
      Firstly, you must receive at least 5 times the cost of the loan in new benefits from the new loan. In the case of a loan in which there are no costs, any benefit at all would meet this requirement. If the loan costs on the new loan were $1,000, under this scenario you would need a minimum of $5,000 in new benefits with the new loan to meet the first of the two tests.
      The second test is the loan proceeds test. You would not meet this requirement based on your scenario of no additional funds. You must receive at least 5% of the new Principal Limit in proceeds with the new loan.
      In other words, if your new Principal Limit for the same transaction was $200,000, you would need to receive $10,000 in new proceeds from the refinance to meet the second test to be eligible for the refinance loan. In this case, the two tests indicate that a minimum of $10,000 must be available to the borrower to be eligible for the reverse mortgage refinance since it is the greater of the two requirements.
      If the costs of the new loan were higher, say the cost to complete the refinance was $6,500, then under that scenario the 5 times the cost benefit would be the greater of the two at $32,500 and that would be the number the lender would use since it would be greater than the 5% the Principal Limit requirement.
      In any event, you would not be eligible under HUD's requirements if there was no increase in funds to the borrower as you indicated since you could not meet the additional 5% of the Principal Limit test if there are no new funds available.
      Reply to Michael
      •   Chito M
        July 3rd, 2020
        Appreciate the reply, ARLO. Per NRMLA opinion 2015-02, the Loan Proceeds test is done this way, as I understand it: The Available Benefit Amount (or ABA) must equal or exceed 5% of the new HECM refi Principal Limit.
        The trade organization defines ABA as the remainder amount after subtracting the original HECM payoff and the total closing costs of the HECM refi from the new HECM refi Principal Limit. So I understand this test to mean that if the ABA is at least 5% of the new HECM refi Prncipal Limit, the loan proceeds test is met. Is this correct understanding?
        You also said that a lower rate/MIP rate , alone, will not qualify a borrower to do a HECM refi.
        However, your June 18th 2020 reply to John, 5 days after you replied to me, states "for the first time, some instances where the only benefit is a lower rate, are being considered. If rate/MIP acrual is lowered by 2% or more, these loans are now also being considered as a benefit to the borrower."
        So I understand it that your reply to me on 6/13 is overridden by your 6/18 reply to John, as far as lowering rate/MIP by 2% or more, which by itself, is now considered a benefit to the borrower.
        Reply to Chito
        • Michael Branson Michael Branson
          July 7th, 2020
          Hello Chito,
          You are correct in your understanding of the amount you must receive under the NRMLA established required benefits. And you are also correct that we posted a new answer just 5 days later regarding the 2% or more rate reduction. I just wish we had received the ability to change before answering the first time.
          We have long believed and lobbied for a rate reduction exception for many years. All Reverse originates very few refinance loans as a percentage of our business. We simply do not keep going back to existing reverse mortgage borrowers with those flyers you see in your mailbox every month or with telephone calls trying to get borrowers to refinance their loans.
          When borrowers have a need and contact us, we will originate the loan when it actually benefits the borrower but we just don't believe is trying to churn the loans to the detriment of the borrower's equity when they pay fees on each transaction.
          However, when you are able to bring down the interest rate by 2% or more and in some cases also provide a lower life cap on the loan, it makes sense for a lot of borrowers to save thousands of dollars of interest even if they don't receive the additional 5% principal limit in cash. For this reason, we are happy that this option now exists on an exception basis for borrowers when it really does make sense for the borrower.
          Here again, we have sent no flyers out to announce the availability of a refinance for interest rate only as it is by exception only and only when it really benefits the borrower. But when you have a balance of $250,000 on a current loan, 2% is $5,000 interest saved in the first year alone and that really makes a huge difference several years later.
          Reply to Michael

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